Leading with Heart

Leading with Heart

September 1, 2025
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What does it really take to lead a school district? Two accomplished Georgia superintendents pull back the curtain on their leadership journeys in this illuminating conversation.

Dr. Robbie Hooker (Clark County Schools) and Philip Brown (Jackson County Schools) trace their paths from classroom teachers to district leaders, sharing candid stories about the pivotal moments that shaped their careers. Dr. Hooker reveals how he transformed from psychology student to kindergarten teacher before becoming an award-winning high school principal. Brown discusses being appointed principal at just 28 years old and receiving the humbling advice that would guide his leadership philosophy: "You'll succeed because you have no idea what you're doing—so you'll listen."

Both superintendents agree that the high school principalship, though extraordinarily demanding, represented the most rewarding period in their careers. They describe the delicate balance of empowering students and teachers while maintaining high expectations for all learners regardless of background or circumstances.

The conversation explores critical leadership principles that transcend position titles. "Every day is a job interview," Brown emphasizes, highlighting how reputation becomes currency in educational leadership. Dr. Hooker stresses that effective leaders must be "confident but humble," capable of building trust through genuine relationships. Both superintendents underscore the importance of finding the right community fit when pursuing leadership positions—researching thoroughly rather than chasing titles.

For current and aspiring educational leaders, this conversation offers invaluable wisdom about navigating career transitions, building effective teams, and creating learning environments where every student can thrive. As Dr. Hooker beautifully frames it, true leadership success comes from developing "disciples of your legacy" who continue advancing educational excellence long after your tenure ends.

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